He has fought (tooth and nail) every lawsuit, every media inquiry, and every request (both odd, and sane) to present his original Hawaii birth certificate. I have proposed often that if someone "will not" do something, it is probably because they "can not." Our President could have put this controversy behind him long ago...like when he was sued by the former head of the Pennsylvania Democrat Party.
It would be a very easy thing. If someone questioned my US citizenship, I would just show them my birth certificate. If I didn't have one in the filing cabinet, I could run across the bridge to "Vital Records" in Shreveport...show some ID...tell them when I was born...where I was born (City, hospital, etc.)...and come back 30 minutes later to pick up a certified copy. I know that I can, because we have had to do this twice with our children.
Of all things Obama is suspected of, this is without a doubt the easiest to dispense with. Yet, he WILL NOT! So, I believe he is lying...and just CAN NOT.
But something was brought to my attention that had not crossed my mind. Paul Hollrah at Family Security Matters makes an interesting argument as to "WHY" this should be cleared up by Obama. The whole post is worth a read. The information about BarackO' s travels to Pakistan in 1981, and how he could not travel there on a US Passport (according the post, Pakistan was on the forbidden list for US citizens at the time) is interesting...I'm gonna look into that. I am not supporting the assertions of this post as "fact." But what really caught my interest in the post was this:
"But what if he is not eligible? What then? Well, in that case we have a problem… a very large problem, the solution to which could tear asunder the fabric of American society.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution states that, “No person except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
That’s pretty straightforward, yet, when confronted with the possibility that the man who sits in the Oval Office may be a usurper, a great many otherwise patriotic Americans can be heard to say, “What difference does it make? The election’s over; the people have spoken. Get over it!”
Well, it’s not quite as simple as all that and the sooner we can all be satisfied that Obama is or is not a natural born citizen, the better. To postpone that finding for a year or two and then find, conclusively, that Obama is not eligible to serve as president would be disastrous. Every new law and every executive order he had signed, every political appointment, every judicial appointment, every order he had given to the military, and every act and every decision of all of his appointees would immediately become null and void. How could we ever undo all of that?
The American people would quickly learn that it is not much easier to undo two or three years of history than it is to undo a decade or a century. It is imperative that we get to the bottom of this mystery as quickly as possible so that all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, can finally accept that, like it or not, Barack Obama is our president. In order to do that, and to force Obama to end his stubborn refusal to produce his birth certificate, his passports, his visas, and his college records..."I keep trying to leave this alone. I just can't. I made the point before the election that this needed to be cleared up...and after the election. I noted the "can of worms" that might be opened a year or two down the road if this was not stamped "Done" before Jan. 20.
Call me crazy. You won't be the first...nor the last, I'm sure...
I so totally agree with you - 1, that he should produce proof of citizenship, i.e., birth certificate, and 2, that he's lying.
ReplyDeleteThe man doth protest too much, you know what I mean?
Staci: I'm reckoning that's something from Billy Bob Shakespeare...I didn't know that they taught protesting stuff in Okieland...
ReplyDeleteAnd, heck yes! He doth protest too much. My rememberer tells me that it comes from HamOmelet, and that it was a "she" that protested too much.
'Bout right..."To be, or not to, etc." I really don't think this idiot knows whether he wants to BE, or DO, or what he/she is.
I've seen some con artists, some frauds, and some snake-oil salesmen in my life. And I can say with no doubt that none can match Obama. My Okie friend...WE ARE SCREWED!
Obama has posted and showed to FactCheck and Polifact the ONLY birth certificate that Hawaii currently issues, which is the Certification of Live Birth. That document, which is a short-form birth certificate, is the official birth certificate of Hawaii and it is accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by such federal agencies as the US State Department and the branches of the military.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.starbulletin.com/features/20090606_kokua_line.html
And, the facts of the document have been confirmed by the two officials in Hawaii who looked into the file and stated that there was an original birth certificate in the file. Not a foreign birth certificate, not a delayed birth certificate, not a certificate of Hawaiian birth, but an original birth certificate.
Then why is Obama suing to block the release of this document? Answer: He isn’t. All the cases against him were to stop the election or to stop the certification of the election. There has not been a single case against him that simply asked for documents.
Then why doesn't Obama simply release the original birth certificate? Answer, unless Hawaii will send it to him, he can't.
Anonymous: First of all, let me thank you for identifying yourself so I know who I am responding to.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, in your comment you write, "Then why is Obama suing to block the release of this document? Answer: He isn’t."
Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember ever claiming...or reading any others claim that Obama is suing to block the release of his birth certificate. What he did, was spend large sums of money fighting lawsuits to require him to produce it.
Strange behavior for someone with nothing to hide...
The point of the post is that if he answered the first suit, the whole thing would have been dispensed with post haste! For some reason he chose to fight it tooth and nail. Not exactly a good start for a "transparent & open" administration in my book.
Re: "What he did, was spend large sums of money fighting lawsuits to require him to produce it."
ReplyDeleteNo he did not. All the lawsuits were to stop the election or to stop the certification of the election. There were no lawsuits for the document or to require him to provide the document.
Re: "he point of the post is that if he answered the first suit, the whole thing would have been dispensed with post haste! For some reason he chose to fight it tooth and nail."
ReplyDeleteSince every single suit asked to stop the election or to stop the certification of the election naturally he chose to fight it tooth and nail. This has nothing to do with "transparent," it had to do with not stopping the election and allowing the certification to go ahead.
Anonymous: Thanks once again for identifying yourself. I must admit that you make at least reasonable arguments in a civil manner. Good on you!
ReplyDeleteAnd, I must admit that you made me break my rule of not responding to "Anonymous" comments. It is pretty boring around here today, and I had nothing better to do.
While I disagree with your logic, and your conclusions, I can not fault your manners.
I don't want to disparage your BS Meter, but does it not at least raise a "one alarm fire" when someone with a very murky, little known past so vehemently fights an opportunity to be "open and transparent?" I'm just asking...
By the way, there are A LOT of blog commentors that have stolen your name. Come on man...don't hide behind Anon. With your good manners, and reasonable demeanor, you will be taken completely to heart by most if you have an identity that someone can peg.
I'm just saying...
Re: "I don't want to disparage your BS Meter, but does it not at least raise a "one alarm fire" when someone with a very murky, little known past so vehemently fights an opportunity to be "open and transparent?" I'm just asking..."
ReplyDeleteI have done the research and gone to every lawsuit that was filed against Obama. ALL of them asked for the election to be stopped or to stop the certification of the election.
What would have been the effect if Obama had not opposed these suits? Under our law system, if he (or at least some defendant) had not opposed a suit which said "stop the election," the election would have been stopped.
Those were the purposes of the suits, and every single one of them asked a judge to stop the election or to stop the certification of the election.
There is mention of the birth certificate in them, but most allege that Obama would not be eligible even if he showed a birth certificate because of his father.
None said "if he just shows the birth certificate, we will drop the suit." None said "all we want is the birth certificate." None said "all we want is the documents."
All said "stop."
If there were a suit that asked for documents and did not demand that the election be stopped, you could say "he spent millions on keeping his documents secret." But that was not the reason he opposed the suits, and the documents were not the reason the suits were brought. They were to stop the election.
The claim that he has spent money, any money at all, to stop documents from being shown is simply false.
Obama does not need to produce a birth certificate to prove he is "natural born" since we already KNOW he is not "natural born".
ReplyDeleteTo be "natural born" you must be born in US territory of two American citizen parents. The founders were VERY concerned about divided allegiances, hence the specific requirement that the president only be beholden to one country and only one.
Obama's father was not an American citizen ergo, Obama is not "natural born".
The birth certificate issue is beside the point. Obama already has admitted his father was not a US citizen.